Angela: I'm Angela Fowler and I live at Invercairn House at Brodie in Moray.

Nina: Which is the old railway station.

Angela: It's an old railway station, it was closed by Dr. Beecham.

Nina: And can you tell us about your experience of second sight?

Angela: Well, I didn't see anything. We felt something. My husband's father had died very suddenly and it was in Deal in Kent and John and I had gone to help his mother. And she had gone to bed the night before the funeral and we were sitting in his office which was a long narrow room and quite suddenly it was just sort of filled with electricity is about the only way I could describe it. So that it was painful to your ears and we couldn't talk and the room walls just felt as though they were vibrating with this terrible power and my husband wasn't happy at all. He just said "Poppy's in here, isn't he?" and I said "Yes" and then it just faded away again. When I was younger, I was very fond of my mother's mother and I was eleven when she died and after her funeral quite some time afterwards, I was always aware that she was there and I said to my mother that - "could grannie still be here?" And she said, "oh, after people die, it takes quite a while for them to fade away." And I think that probably describes the way one feels about it often when people die but it isn't always people who are close to you because I had an aunt who died and I never felt like that after she died, she went very, very quickly.

Nina: And do you think it makes you feel better or worse about the person, knowing that they're perhaps still there?

Angela: It doesn't worry me at all. It would worry me if I felt they weren't happy. But in the case of my grandmother, I always felt she was looking after me. With John's father, I just really couldn't explain it, I just had a feeling that he really wasn't ready to die and it was just I suppose a shock in a way, describes the way the room was that it was like electricity in the room and he had a lot more to give and he wasn't there to give it.

Nina: Do you remember it quite vividly? Something that's stuck with you? Yeah?

Angela: Oh yes, oh yes. No question about it. It was very painful. The electricity - I mean it was like having a terrible electric shock. Your head was buzzing and the walls were moving or felt as though they were moving. I think probably because this room was very narrow. And the two of us were just in the room by ourselves. But we both felt it. There's no question about it.

"This receptive faculty, for power it cannot be called, is neither voluntary nor constant. The appearances have no dependence on choice: they cannot be summoned, detained, or recalled.
The impression is sudden, and the effect often painful."

Johnson from 'A Journey to the Western Islands of Scotland'

Nina: I've never heard anyone describe it as a physical kind of sensation like that. I've heard people talk about a sense, but that sounds very, very physical.

Angela: Yes.

Nina: So if somebody asked you if uou believed in second sight, you'd say yes?

Angela: Yes. There are - I think there are - is it called deja vu where you have this feeling that you've been here before. "I've done this before." When I was younger I used to have it much more than I do now. And this funny feeling "I've done this before" or "I've been here before" or you're driving along a road and you'll see gates and you'll think "I've seen those before" but you know you've never ever been in the place before. It disturbs me a bit I think. It doesn't really worry me, but it disturbs me.

Nina: I think lots of people get deja vu and that's not so disturbing but if you felt you were seeing something ahead of time that might be more upsetting.

Angela: Oh, that would be very distressing I think. Yes, because I think lots of people perhaps wouldn't pay attention to it. Because I think people have seen earthquakes and plane crashes and things like that, which must be absolutely ghastly.

Nina: A woman was describing a sensation of not wanting to get on a plane the other day, Wasn't she?

Karen: premonition about a plane .. She knew there was going to be something wrong with the plane. Eventually she got to the plane and at the last minute they were taken off it. ....

Angela: Really?

Karen: She was sure she didn't want to get on it. I think they actually did get on it in the end.

Nina: Oh I suppose you think... (mumbles) OK that's great.